Provocarea cea mai mare: să-i ții pe oameni motivați
- Ce îți place cel mai mult la ceea ce faci?
- Îmi plac mai multe lucruri. Procesul de gândire, când pot să stau la o cafea sau într-un bar cu Stefano sau cu alți oameni și pur și simplu că putem avea un moment când spunem că „trebuie să facem asta!”. Exact așa a fost cu implementarea proiectului bazat pe stand-up comedy.
Al doilea lucru care îmi place este procesul de implementare, când poți să transformi acele șapte sau zece zile ale participanților în ceva care pentru ei are foarte mult sens. Că pot urmări cum se construiesc relații între indivizi sau între grupuri de indivizi. Că pot să le provoc puțin felul în care gândesc despre diferite subiecte. Acestea sunt recompensele care mă motivează pe mine și din aceste motive, cred că acest job este minunat, este magic.
- Care sunt provocările, dificultățile din cadrul proiectelor?
- Una dintre provocări este să îi păstrezi pe oameni motivați. Să îi faci să vorbească, să le stârnești interesul. Când lucrezi cu grupuri, apar mereu diferite dinamici, pe care este nevoie să le gestionezi. Apar conflicte, de care trebuie să fii conștient și pe care trebuie să știi să le facilitezi, e aproape inevitabil.
În plus, oricât de în detaliu ai planifica, oricât ai încerca să anticipezi toate scenariile posibile, e important să înțelegi că lucruri neprevăzute se vor întâmpla. Anumiți oameni ar putea decide că este amuzant să spargă ceva, că vor brusc să plece undeva, de exemplu.
- Îmi poți menționa și o provocare personală?
- Sunt copleșită de toate lucrurile pe care este nevoie să le știu. Cu cât lucrez mai mult, cu atât mi-e mai clar că am nevoie să învăț mai mult. Este și frumos, dar este și o mare provocare pentru mine pentru că eu mă așteptam ca după câțiva ani de experiență în domeniu, lucrurile vor fi din ce în ce mai ușoare, însă am senzația că jobul devine din ce în ce mai complex.
Așa că provocarea mea este să fac față și să n-o iau razna, de exemplu, atunci când îmi dau seama într-un proiect că nu avem timp să trecem prin toate etapele pe care le-am planificat și apoi să mă gândesc cum să fac mai bine la următorul.
„Scopul nostru nu este să le schimbăm opiniile, ci să le provocăm”
- Dar o bucurie?
- Bucuria este când văd acele mici schimbări în gândirea și în comportamentul oamenilor. Sunt oameni care vin cu opinii foarte rigide și scopul nostru nu este să le schimbăm opiniile, ci să le provocăm. Doar că uneori schimbarea se întâmplă de la sine.
De asemenea, mă bucur când îi ajut pe oameni să iasă din zonele lor de confort, când îi provoc să încerce ceva nou și când îi văd cum pur și simplu înfloresc pe măsură ce fac asta.
- Spune-mi ceva invizibil despre jobul tău.
- Sunt o grămadă de documente PDF și Excel pe care trebuie să le facem sau să le parcurgem, este foarte multă birocrație și sunt foarte multe nopți nedormite în spatele fiecărui proiect pe care îl organizăm. Și uneori mă simt geloasă pe oamenii care au capacitatea de a-și separa viața privată de job, însă, pentru că această lume este foarte frumoasă pentru mine, nu știu cum să fac să o separ de viața personală.
- Ceva ce ai vrea să adaugi?
- Nu ești prea bătrân pentru proiectele pe care le organizăm. Uneori oamenii care au 30+ consideră că e prea târziu pentru ei să încerce Erasmus+, dar nu este adevărat.
Youth worker, what kind of job is that?
„I wanna be a youth worker when I grow up”, said no one. But it should have. We have spoken with Rasa Tučinskaitė, a Lithuanian youth worker about a kind of job born from the European Union's projects: youth worker, which has its responsibilities and joys. How else could it be when you're working with youth?
I met Rasa Tučinskaitė in 2022 in the Netherlands while attending an Erasmus+ training course. The topic was human rights.
Together with participants from many European countries, I've spent with her and Stefano (her colleague from „Loud and Clear”) 10 days in Ommen, a very peaceful Dutch village, with splendid sunsets. For me, it was a period of discovery and amazement, because it was the first time I had the chance to travel in such a way, with an Erasmus training course.
In the Netherlands, I've felt that I discovered non-formal education, Dutch culture, and Erasmus+ altogether. Also, I created connections with people from many countries, and I used the opportunity to understand better what a facilitator is or can be by analying the structure of the entire project and speaking with Rasa about this kind of job, which was very mysterious for me at that time.
Rasa also offered to let me facilitate a workshop, but I didn't have the guts to do it then, but two years later, when again I received a similar challenge, I accepted the invitation. By that time I was a facilitator myself (not the kind that works as a youth worker), and I think that Rasa's invitation was one of the reasons I fulfilled this aspiration of working as a facilitator because she invited me to try it then.
During that time in Ommen, we have done numerous workshops and talked a lot about human rights. We talked about equality, acceptance of cultural differences, and human rights: the right to life, the right to safety, and the right to be free. The schedule was very well organized, and it employed different techniques: debate, improv, project-based learning, forum teather, and much more.
Both Rasa and Stefano are very passionate about their job. I could see that clearly two years after my first training course, when I had a similar Erasmus experience in Neunagelberg, Austria, and I could compare the level of involvement of the trainers from there to that of Rasa and Stefano, who, in my opinion, are very responsible and good at what they're doing.
I thought that their experience could be of use to others, so I invited Rasa to a conversation. Here is a formal presentation of her: Rasa is a Lithuanian youth worker who, at 33 years old, is now the co-founder of an organization that works with young people. Together with Stefano Esposito has founded "Loud and Clear,” and their goal for the moment is to spread learning about youth working through non-formal activities.
An informal way to describe her is that she is that person that believes that the creativity of young people should be released.
Being an youth worker in Romania
We know that „lucrător de internet” (the Romanian translation of „youth worker) sounds a bit odd in our language, but the job legally exists in our country; it has a code allocated in Codul Ocupațiilor din România (the list of occupations in Romania), and there are different entities that can help you get an official certificate to become a youth worker, which is accredited by the Ministry of Work and the Ministry of Education.
In our country, a youth worker is a person who works with young people in different contexts. For example, youth workers are the ones who work with youth in different NGOs or the ones who organize Erasmus+ projects. That could mean that the organization is either writing or approving projects, or it helps gather participants, or all the above. Youth workers are the ones who work in such organizations, and Rasa told us more about the job.
- Tell me more about your job.
I now have my own organization, an NGO based in Lithuania. I am the co-founder of the organization and simultaneously the project manager and one of the trainers. I work with my colleague, Stefano, and we design the projects, identify the needs, write the proposals, and implement them. We are delivering training, mainly for youth workers and other trainers.
- What is a youth worker? Describe this type of job a bit.
The definition varies depending on the country. In some European countries, the definition of a youth worker does not exist. Many people improvise when they need to define youth workers. In Lithuania, youth work will become a regular profession. The law has already passed, and there will be some requirements to call yourself a youth worker. You must pass a specific exam and study social sciences or psychology.
However, this framework is not that well established. For me, the youth worker is generally the person who works directly with young people. It's the one who hears them, helps them, supports them, and guides them in different settings. We can speak about youth centers. We can talk about NGOs. It can be through non-formal education activities about entrepreneurship, the environment, etc.
It depends on the organization's group target. It could also include youth working in other countries, guiding and counseling them in their careers.
- Can you share your story with me a little bit? How did you decide to choose this career path?
Well, I guess that the path chose me. Well, the story starts naturally with the Erasmus+, because Erasmus+, for me, is one of the most beautiful things the European Union is giving to all of us.
It started when I wanted to volunteer with European Solidarity Corpse for one year in Portugal. That was the first time I heard about Erasmus+ because the organization worked with it.
I went for the Erasmus+ before but never knew it was so big. But thanks to my volunteering, I learned that there are short-term projects, like the Youth Exchanges and Training Courses, and long-term projects because my organization worked a lot for the projects with other organizations around Europe. So, it kind of sparked my interest when I got to understand what non-formal education was about. And I thought that it was so interesting, so lovely.
It was my first project when I went to North Macedonia, a Youth Exchange. I remember sitting there on the last day after this project. I wanted to work in this field because I thought it was so interesting, lovely, and impactful, and I wanted to show others how beautiful it is.
After that, I went to many other projects, but after the first one, I remember when I came back, I was telling my best friend, "You know what? I want to open my own organization, and I want to do this."
Then I heard about the opportunity of Erasmus for Young Entrepreneurs, which is another program that allows people who want to establish their business, social business, whatever business, or already have established recently to go abroad and work in a similar organization and to learn from more experienced entrepreneurs. So that's what I did. I built my business plan to open the organization in Lithuania.
I found an organization in Greece that could host me and went there for four months. That was my first real touch because I started working only on the projects when I went there. So, I was not just a participant, but I was already involved in implementing the projects.
I stayed in Greece for over three years because they offered me a new contract after finishing my Erasmus plan. During those three years, I worked on different projects with different people.
- How come you and Stefano got to work together?
Stefano was already in Greece doing Erasmus for Young Entrepreneurs before me. The organization offered him to stay as well because they liked how he was working. And then, I arrived. So, we met in the organization. We have been working together for three years hand by hand, shoulder by shoulder. And, of course, when you're working with someone, you are getting more ideas and inspiration. So, yeah, it resulted in „Loud and Clear” at the end.
- How is „Loud and Clear” different?
Let's say that with „Loud and Clear”, we wanted to bring a bit of innovation and a different approach. From the beginning, our primary role was working with the international youth workers community. Of course, we want to bring a lot of impact on the local level. But for now, we are more focused on bringing impact internationally and specifically with youth workers.
We missed a lot when we were working in Greece, and we sometimes had a bit of motivation, understanding, and inspiration. We also missed some guidance on how to do the projects, and how to do them well. We kind of learned it by ourselves.
- Can you give me an example?
We had a project about human rights, but we wanted to speak about human rights from different perspectives. So, we chose stand-up comedy. The project involved using stand-up comedy techniques to raise awareness about human rights.
And as challenging as the project was, at the same time, it was very, very powerful. So, our main thing is that we want to bring the topics to the table that are very important but to use different methodologies to do a bit more experiential learning. And, yeah, in the end, just to give the best experience for the youth workers, so they could be inspired, they could take the best out of it, and they could bring it to the young people that they are working with daily.
- So, tell me, what is your favourite part of the things that you're doing?
I like two things I can highlight. So, one, when the idea comes. That's like, you can just be sitting in the bar, and just to have this „Aha!” moment, you know. That's like, oh my gosh, we need to put this on. That happened with the stand-up comedy idea. The second part, of course, is implementation. I believe the job is magical. I am thinking about the learning experience for the people, you can make the seven, or ten days that they are spending with you very powerful, and very impactful. So, for me, for this reason, this job is something amazing.
It is very beautiful when you're building a relationship with the groups or with the individuals. It's also very beautiful when you're changing their thinking patterns a little bit about some topics, like the environment, for example. This is very rewarding.
- What are your main topics of interest?
Human rights, environment, social issues. Then we have digitalization in the sense of digital stability and more than just thinking about the negative aspects of digitalization, like cyberbullying, cyber violence, and cyber security.
Another topic is digital content creation, a kind of technical skill for the youth workers, trainers, and project managers from the NGOs. To give them the technical skills they need. Stefano is very good at this.
Another very important thing that we are working on right now is how to bring opportunities to people from rural areas. Because I know myself that in Lithuania when we were speaking about the Erasmus+ and how beautiful the world is, it's accessible if you are from the bigger cities. But the reality is a bit different if you go to the villages and you don't need to go too far. So, I really would like to focus and work with young people from rural areas. Just to let them know that it's there for them to see the world.
- So, for the people that don't know yet, who can become a youth worker? How can you become a youth worker if you want?
In general, to become a youth worker, I believe that the first step would be to invest in volunteering at a local NGO that works for young people. To see what work they are doing, of course, it's not necessarily that you need to love the work that they are doing but just understand the dynamics.
I would always suggest going to the one that works on the local level to understand what the young people are thinking about, what are the problems, what are the needs, and what is the interaction.
To be a youth worker or to work with young people or with young adults, it's a huge responsibility. So, I believe that you need to love what you're doing because there are so many things that you need to take into consideration.
Like, you need to have good emotional intelligence and a bit of an understanding of psychology as well as how it can work in certain situations, especially when you're working with the group psychology behind. So, you need to invest some time because there are so many things that trigger us. And the youth worker is supposed to be a person that creates a safe space.
So, I believe that before going there, you need to try. And if it's your passion if you love the job you will find the right opportunities for you.
And of course, it's not always rainbows and unicorns, there are a lot of challenges.
- What are the challenges?
The challenge is to keep the motivation of the people to stay engaged and to motivate them to speak. When you're working with groups, there are always group dynamics and group psychology and there are conflicts that you need to know how to facilitate. It's a part of life for sure, so it's not that you need to avoid them.
Also, as much as you can plan all of the details, all of the possible things that would happen, it is important to understand that things that you didn’t plan will happen. For example, a group of people could decide that it's going to be fun to do something, break something, or go somewhere.
- Can you mention a personal challenge?
I'm getting overwhelmed with things I need to know. The more I'm working, the more I understand that I need to constantly update myself. It's a nice thing but it's challenging because at the beginning I thought that I was going to have a few years of experience, and it's going to be very easy. But I understood that there are so many things that I need to be aware of. And that the details matter.
So my challenge is to keep up. And not to get crazy sometimes when I start to think, for example, about how important reflection is, but there's no time for it in the process.
- And your joy?
It's when I see the changes in the behavior, or in the mindset of the people I work with. There are sometimes people who come with very firm opinions and our job is not to change those opinions, it's to question them. You know, they can find the answers wherever they want. And yeah, my joy, it's to hear the changes or the questions.
And, of course, to see some people blooming and to empower them to try something new to go out of their comfort zone and experience something.
- Tell me something invisible about your work.
There are tons of Excel and tons of PDFs that we save for inspiration, there is a lot of bureaucracy behind a lot of time needed for each project, and many sleepless nights.
Also, sometimes I am jealous of the people who can separate their personal lives from their jobs. But for me, it's too much combined. But the truth is that it's a very beautiful world (the world of youth work). And it's like, I just don't know how to, how it's possible to put the line between work and my personal life.
- Something to add?
You are not too old. Sometimes people over 30 think that they are too old for the kind of opportunities that we are delivering. But the truth is otherwise.